"Local Co-ordinator Meeting"

"Sitzung der Local Co-ordinators"

"Reunion des Coordinateurs locaux"

Working Group

8 th meeting

31st January 02 to 1st February 02

BECH Building

Luxembourg

AGENDA ITEM 3

 

DOCUMENT LC/09/002

 

 

SHORT MINUTES OF THE 8TH LOCAL CO-ORDINATOR

MEETING

(EN)

 

For information and discussion

 

SUBJECT: Short Minutes of Local Co-ordinator’s meeting

Author:

Meeting dates:

Meeting Sequence:

Leonidas Bardis

31st January – 1st February 2002

8th Local Co-ordinator Meeting

Meeting duration:

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Next meeting date :

Confidentiality :

2 days

Eurostat - Bech Building

27-28th May 2002

 

PARTICIPANTS

 

Name

Country

Organisation

Day

Day

Eurostat:

Wolfgang KNÜPPEL

EU

EUROSTAT A/2

x

x

 

Didier HARDY

EU

EUROSTAT A/2

x

x

 

Michel VLIETINCK

EU

EUROSTAT A/2

x

x

 

Ray CONLON

EU

EUROSTAT A/2

x

x

 

Luc DRAPPIER

EU

EUROSTAT/A2

x

x

 

Johan PIEDIGROSSO

EU

EUROSTAT/A2

x

x

 

Fotini KAPARELOU

EU

EUROSTAT/A2

x

x

 

Michael WHATLING

EU

EUROSTAT/A2

x

x

Local Co-ordinators:

Claude DELANNOY

Belgium

Institut National de Statistique

x

x

 

Gerhard SCHOLTZE

Austria

Statistik Austria

x

x

 

Annegrete WULFF

Denmark

Danmarks Statistik

x

x

 

Walter BRÜCKMANN

Germany

Statistisches Bundesamt

x

x

 

Andreas VELLAS

Greece

National Statistical Service Greece

x

x

 

Hannele SEITSAMO

Finland

Statistics Finland

x

x

 

Bertrand MICHEL DE PREVIA

France

INSEE

x

x

 

Paschal HAYES

Ireland

Central Statistics Office

x

x

 

Mike BISSENER

Luxembourg

STATEC

x

x

 

Roelof LINDEMAN

Netherlands

CBS

x

x

 

Antonio PORTUGAL

Portugal

Instituto Nacional de Estatística

x

x

 

Björn WALTERS

Sweden

Statistics Sweden

x

x

Other participants from National Administrations:

Marc MOLLET

Belgium

Banque National de Belgique

x

x

 

Dominique PERRIN

France

INSEE

x

x

 

Adrian REDMOND

Ireland

CSO

x

 

 

Martien VAN DEN AARSSEN

Netherlands

CBS

x

x

EFTA Countries

Marianne VIK DYSTERUD

Norway

Statistics Norway

x

x

PHARE Countries

Robert DEBRECENI

Hungary

Hungarian Central Statistical Office

x

x

 

Jeffrey BEZZINA

Malta

National Statistics Office

x

x

Other participants

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stamatis HLIARAS

Belgium

EUROPEAN DYNAMICS

x

x

 

Jean-Noël HAUX

Belgium

EUROPEAN DYNAMICS

x

x

 

Antonios STEFANOU

Greece

EUROPEAN DYNAMICS

x

 

 

Leonidas BARDIS

Greece

EUROPEAN DYNAMICS

x

x

 

Vassili DANILOF

Luxembourg

EUROPEAN DYNAMICS

 

x

 

Aneta SINACHOPOULOS

Greece

ARCHIMEDIA

x

x

 

Sean TOMAN

Ireland

REVENUE

x

x

 

Fabien JACQUET

Luxembourg

ARIANE II

x

x

 

Sylvain KUREK

Luxembourg

ARIANE II

x

x

 

Pierre EVRARD

Luxembourg

INTRASOFT

x

x

 

Stefaan EECKELS

Luxembourg

INTRASOFT

x

x

  1. Introduction
  2. The Chairman, Mr. Wolfgang Knüppel opened the meeting and welcomed the participants.

    Short reference to three meetings that took place on 29-30/1/2002 was made.

    Mr Luc Drappier will take over tasks of Mr Didier Hardy with regard to the local co-ordinator meetings and the update of EDIFLOW.

  3. Adoption of the Agenda
  4. Mr Knüppel provided an outline of the objectives of the current meeting. The first day is devoted to STADIUM, the second day to EDIFLOW and other issues.

  5. Adoption of the Minutes of the 7th Local Co- ordinator Meeting
  6. Minutes of the 7th GLC meeting were accepted without comments.

    Effort will be made to keep long minutes shorter and up to the point.

  7. Review of the Action list
  8. The action list (as in document LC/08/004) was reviewed. Most of the actions have been properly addressed. Refer to the action list for the actual status of previous actions and description of new actions agreed during this meeting.

  9. STADIUM (from Visual Basic to Java and the web client)
  10. The features of the new web client and advantages over the VB version were presented.

    Problems that were identified during the discussion that followed are the lack of stability of the new version, the confusion created by the multitude of terms used.

  11. Experience sharing (STADIUM web-client installation)
  12. This item has been merged with the item below.

  13. STADIUM web-client (latest installer release)
  14. The web client installation procedure was demonstrated and precautions with configuration of third-party components were explained.

    Lack of stability of the product and inadequate testing prior to installation at Member States were the main points raised during the discussion. Questions on the necessity of a dedicated server have no general answer and remedy of abnormal behaviour during installation was covered by the next point.

  15. Web-client installation – live demonstration
  16. Some post-installation steps related to system configuration were explained. Also, the structure of log and configuration files was explained and troubleshooting hints were given.

  17. Experience sharing (STADIUM web-client installation)

Current installation of the new web client on a Windows 2000 server at the INS (Belgium) was presented. Comprehensive information on the tool and its usage is provided through the intranet web site of the organisation

Several issues were touched during discussion rounds between presentations:

Refer to the long version of the minutes for detailed answers to the above.

  1. Web-client improvements and future requirements
  2. Future developments comprise improvement of the code, development of a stand-alone web client, support of compression and encryption, improvement of reporting facilities, provision of a Unix version, integration with CIRCA

    It was recommended to concentrate on delivering a stable product before starting with new developments. Immediate Eurostat priority is improvement of the code. Priorities of new developments will be agreed with MSs after a thorough effort assessment.

  3. STADIUM (web-client deployment plan)
  4. A precondition is to have a stable version so as to minimise installation problems. As soon as this version is available, a plan will be prepared (see also previous point).

  5. GESMES

Version 1.2.1 of the GENEDI tool was demonstrated. The tool allows transformation of flat files to GESMES format as well as mapping and validation of codes. Sending of generated GESMES files to Eurostat is possible.

During the discussion following issues were identified:

  1. EDIFLOW Update status – encountered problems
  2. The presentation focused on the procedure for updating the EDIFLOW database through data obtained from Eurostat officials and LCs.

    Some Member States reported that the database still contained wrong data and some data are missing, although already provided. A dataflow-centric extraction of the entire database contents would be more useful. The contents of the ‘role’ field should be carefully revised. Some data flows are either non-existing or outside the scope of LC influence.

  3. EDIFLOW inventory update policy for 2002
  4. Update of EDIFLOW will involve three groups the LCs, Eurostat officials and statistical working groups. All the above groups will be addressed during this year.

    Correction of the current databases contents will be done before the next update round. Ownership of every data item within EDIFLOW should be clarified to avoid confusion. Several actions have been proposed to remedy the situation. Refer to the action list for details.

  5. Working Group centred promotion activities
  6. The methodology for approaching statistical working groups was presented. Also, data on STADIUM utilisation were given.

    A detailed plan for contacting WGs will be drawn as soon as consent of group leaders is obtained.

  7. Future EDIFLOW development
  8. Envisaged development work on EDIFLOW for this year was presented. To better address current and future needs, task forces for the definition of the user interface for MS usage and for definition of core functionality were set up with participation of delegates from France, the Netherlands, Greece and Portugal.

  9. Other business

The questionnaire on the impact of data collection projects will be finalised and distributed after obtaining feedback from LCs.

A monthly newsletter will be distributed with short news, mainly of LC interest.